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    • One saves, the other wants to demolish
      • 4 Dec 2012
      • Wellington Scoop
      • Accepted from Wellington Scoop features 24 weeks ago by feedreader
      • Tagged as:
      • harcourts building
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 1 comment.

        • ‘Thank you Scott and the members of his family the Hope Gibbons, well known and respected Wellingtonians. Also a big thank you to whoever owns the Huddart Parker building in Post Office square who also are preserving another of our “classic” heritage buildings. Funny in the last big quake earlier this year the only damage reported was a glass pane falling from the Meridian building! ’

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        • Geotagged Inglewood Place, Te Aro, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6011, New Zealand

    • More Dunajtschik
      • 22 Oct 2012
      • Eye of the Fish
      • Regarding the old Temperance and General Building on Lambton Quay – known to next to no-one as the Harcourts building. Submissions on it’s proposed demolition are due in a week – by the end of the month. It is a crunch point for Wellingtonians – should a building owner be allowed to demolish their building [...]
      • Accepted from Eye of the Fish feed 30 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • consultation
      • harcourts building
      • heritage buildings
        • Geotagged Grey Street, Wellington Central, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6012, New Zealand

    • The heritage of the Quay – real, or fake?
      • 3 Oct 2012
      • Wellington Scoop
      • Accepted from Wellington Scoop features 33 weeks ago by feedreader
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 5 comments.

        • ‘This splendid Art Deco building is in one of the last enclaves of heritage buildings on Lambton Quay. Read more about them in the excellent David Kernohan book ‘Wellington’s Old Buildings’ [1994]. Surely preserving our heritage should have priority over any commercial imperative. Our Minister of NZHPT (Chris Finlayson) should be urged to ensure that funds are available to strengthen historic buildings like the ex T & G bldg. In ChCh the majority of fallen, rather than felled (demolished) buildings have been post 1980. Destroying our historic heritage ” old dungers” is shameful and the excuse of buildings being earthquake prone or at risk from tsunami and flooding is greatly exaggerated to pander to the insecurities of the many to the benefit of few. Visitors discover our heritage buildings and delightedly photograph them; not the more recent “modular” characterless abominations like the Telecom Building, the tin boxes off Wigan Street or the prison blocks by Tennyson Street. Where are our Calatravas creating open curved buildings fitting into the environment? ’
        • ‘Traveller – Dunajtschik clearly doesn’t have any interest in what succeeds or fails for the city as a whole; he’s only interested in making money for himself. And in his words, you’re a “looney leftie” and a “fruitcake” for suggesting he should take it into account. ’
        • ‘Doesn’t Mr D have any awareness of why the Golden Mile is so successful – this is in large part due to the elegant old buildings which have survived demolition and which set a standard for the streetscape and provide some visual evidence of our city’s past. ’

        You can view the remaining comments and submit your own here.

        • Geotagged Grey Street, Wellington Central, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6011, New Zealand

    • Dunajtschik demolition
      • 2 Oct 2012
      • Eye of the Fish
      • So the time has come at last: the first of a presumed wave of proposals to demolish perfectly good buildings in Wellington. Christchurch has had to put up with a swathe of demolition over the last couple of years, and they are getting so good at destroying everything down there, that they have forgotten that it is not compulsory. Cranmer Courts is their city’s latest disgrace – the Harcourts building is ours.
      • Accepted from Eye of the Fish feed 33 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings
      • earthquake strengthening
      • harcourts building

      • This newsitem has 10 comments.

        • ‘That’s an overly simplistic view isn’t it? At the time the property was purchased the building was admittedly in the same condition but no one could have predicted the massive increase in insurance costs or aversion of tenants from buildings which are seen to be earthquake prone. Yes, the property is the same, but Christchurch was definitely a game-changer for tenants and landlords alike. ’
        • ‘OPINION: I am finding it difficult to be sympathetic to Mr Dunajtschik’s desire to demolish the Harcourts Building. The issues it faces – being a masonry-faced building in an earthquake zone – have been self-evident since it was built in 1929. Given the information about the building and the requirement to upgrade have been well known to Wellingtonians for decades, it’s hard to believe that Mr Dunajtschik didn’t take them into account when he purchased the property. His claim that it’s uneconomic to upgrade and must be demolished therefore only holds water if he paid too much for the property in the first place. If it needs $5 million of strengthening, then he should have done his research and paid $5 million less than the asking price. But it appears that Wellingtonians are being asked to sacrifice another piece of the city’s heritage to bail a property developer out of his poor commercial decision. KENT DUSTON ’
        • ‘Kent, I couldn’t find your original letter to the Dom online – feel free to repost it here if you wish – although from memory your note here covers most of that. Interestingly, though, I have heard form other sources (un-named at this stage), that Mr Dunajtschik is actually indeed one of Wellington’s greatest philanthropists when it comes to the arts – but that unlike some others, he gives on the basis of anonymity, rather than notoriety. The complete opposite of Terry Serepisos, if you will. So, you could say that there is an unspoken agreement in place here. Either Dunajtschik gives $5m to restore a building which does not seem to be particularly of interest to Wellingtonians (haven’t seen anyone protesting in the streets yet), or possibly there could be some millions to another cause. Whether we know it or not, the judgement may be up to us… ’

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        • Geotagged Grey Street, Wellington Central, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6011, New Zealand

    • National War Memorial “Earthquake-prone”: Demolition?
      • 31 Mar 2012
      • Eye of the Fish
      • In some pretty shocking news that has just been leaked out of the new super-ministry this morning, the National War Memorial in Buckle St has been declared to be an earthquake prone building. The building, completed in 1932, has a concrete frame, but the weight of the heavy bronze bells in the Carillon is thought [...]
      • Accepted from Eye of the Fish feed 59 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings
      • earthquake strengthening
      • mount cook

      • This newsitem has 9 comments.

        • ‘Actually, I was only kidding when I saw that the War Memorial had scaffold on, as it has a reinforced concrete core and so should therefore certainly not be an earthquake hazard. Things being as they are of course, and the reason that no one rushed to correct me, was that I was right: the National War Memorial is not in danger of falling down, but certainly is earthquake prone. The Fish has discovered that the heavy carillon bells are only loosley held, and could hurtle down the shaft in a big quake. Access ladders inside are pretty ropey too, and need to be replaced with better, code compliant access ways. Steel bracing of sorts is being installed within. MCH is keeping very quiet over this, literally, monumental cock-up. ’
        • ‘Well Maximus, I will be joining you in front of the bulldozers. As an old girl of the then Wellington Technical College in the 40′s, this was one of the first Icons in our city and still is a treasured landmark. Perhaps it is the “Dunga” Brownlee who should be demolished. ’
        • ‘What made it hard for me to believe is that they jumped straight to demolition. Everyone knows this government would have tried to sell it to foreign interests first, then when that failed, tear it down. ’

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        • Geotagged 41 Buckle Street

    • Farewell to Fred’s
      • 8 Mar 2012
      • Wellington Scoop
      • Accepted from Wellington Scoop features 63 weeks ago by feedreader
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 4 comments.

        • ‘The earthquake risks in Wellington today are the same as they were two years ago. Or ten years ago. Or a hundred years ago. If I bought a house in Wellington two years ago which was cleared by my engineer’s inspection, but now a council official has decided is at high risk of collapse in the event of an earthquake, that official has effectively blighted my property, without why he/she didn’t consider the matter two years ago when I bought it. My asset has dramatically fallen in value, perhaps by 100% because of a new perspective on risk rather than any fact. That the council has recently decided to look at Wellington properties to decide which are at risk is laudable, perhaps, but it seems to me to be entirely unfair on owners that this new policy should potentially ruin so many property owners. Surely if the council is acting on behalf of all ratepayers, all ratepayers should compensate the victims of this new policy? Has anyone challenged the legality of this situation yet? ’
        • ‘It is very sad If this hall cannot be saved, because as a teenager who attended the old Wellington Technical College in the 40s, I have great memories of this historical chinese quarter, Haining and Frederick Street in particular. If it is demolished, why not develop the Chinese garden here with a small Chinese designed structure to house some of the photos, memorabilia etc which would provide a quiet sanctuary for all the high rise apartment dwellers in this area. This would be preferable to spending millions to rip up Frank Kitts Park which this weekend is covered in tents for the Dragon Boat competitors and the many other events which are enjoyed in the natural amphitheatre. ’
        • ‘Visitors to Wellington are always impressed when they’re taken to Frederick Street and shown the three old Chinese halls. It would be a serious loss to the city’s heritage if one of the halls was to be pulled down. ’

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        • Geotagged 46 Frederick Street, Wellington

    • Edward Elgar - Vesper Voluntaries - St James' Presbyterian Church, Newtown
      • 17 Jan 2012
      • This recording of Elgar's Vesper Voluntaries (op. 14) was performed by Richard Apperley on the Norman and Beard organ at St James' Presbyterian Church, Newtown. The church has recently closed and is due to be demolished during 2012 due to dwindling worshippers and rising insurance premiums following the Christchurch earthquakes. The church has also been deemed an earthquake risk by the Wellington City Council, and the cost of alterations to the building are beyond the means of the church. It is fitting, therefore, that the final recording made on this fine instrument is a performance of Elgar's Vesper Voluntaries - a set of short pieces to be played at the Vespers service held at the end of the day.
      • Tagged as:
      • music
      • heritage buildings
      • newtown
        • Geotagged St James' Presbyterian Church, Newtown
        • Organism_NZ @wellynews We've made a recording of the historic organ at St James Presbyterian Newtown, due to be demolished soon - http://t.co/vJ4MMNgf
        • fgeach RT @wellynews: Edward Elgar - Vesper Voluntaries - St James' Presbyterian Church, Newtown http://t.co/3p06LYdc
        • Organism_NZ @wellynews Thank you for the RT Wellynews! Very sad news about St James'

    • Protecting heritage values on Mt Victoria
      • 21 Dec 2011
      • Wellington Scoop
      • It has been a busy year for the Mt Victoria Residents Association. One of our objectives is to protect the heritage value of Mt Victoria. This does not mean that we advocate the return of the outside privy or petition against the renovation of your kitchen or other rooms. But it does mean we try to prevent the look of Mount Victoria being spoiled by a mishmash of new buildings.
      • Accepted from Wellington Scoop features 74 weeks ago by feedreader
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings
      • mount victoria
        • Geotagged 69 Hawker Street, Wellington

    • The season for demolition
      • 21 Dec 2011
      • Wellington Scoop
      • Christmas seems to be a time for demolition – when most people are too distracted to be concerned about what their city is losing. This demolition opposite the Basin Reserve has just been carried out for the NZ Transport Agency, in preparation for the flyover that it wants to impose on the neighbourhood. In Brooklyn, this landmark building will soon be gone. No one wanted to strengthen it.
      • Accepted from Wellington Scoop features 74 weeks ago by feedreader
      • Tagged as:
      • brooklyn
      • basin reserve flyover
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 5 comments.

        • ‘When will this building be demolished? ’
        • ‘The challenge for Wellington is still ahead of us, I fear. Think of all the great old Cuba Street buildings which give the street its unique character – but which need to be strengthened, if their owners can find the money. . ’
        • ‘I may have been too hasty with my comments and perhaps not noticed enough of the buildings that have survived (and considering it is an earthquake zone perhaps all the more remarkeable that many did.) ’

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        • Geotagged 37 Cleveland Street, Brooklyn, Wellington
        • _WebDesignCo RT @wellynews: Wellington Scoop - The season for demolition http://t.co/goYUF7P3

    • Learning from Christchurch – or not.
      • 6 Dec 2011
      • Architectural Centre Inc
      • Cr Andy Foster’s comment over on EyeoftheFish regarding issues of eq preparedness in Wellington highlight, for me at least, something of the difficulties of this particular discussion.
      • Accepted from Architecture Centre news 76 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 2 comments.

        • ‘But do they need to be heritage buildings in order to maintain that vigil – or could a well designed contemporary response do the job as well (or even better)? For example, this termination has more presence than any you have mentioned: http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17530003.jpg My personal favourite is the next link – not because of its style or age, but becasue of the emphatic way that it addresses its place within and as an element of the urban fabric: http://www.nzetc.org/projects/php/etexts/whitcombe-and-tombs-1.html But the real point is that Christchurch’s sense of place was defined as much by its heritage vernacular (the old dungas), as much as it was by those icons you list. The same is not true of Wellington. ’
        • ‘Thanks m-d for a really insightful commentary – great post. One of the drawbacks of an extensive heritage register, with only 2 grades: ie either Grade 1 or Grade 2, means that buildings of widely differing structure / interest are classified all the same. Some buildings are registered as Heritage because of their history (say, Katherine Mansfield’s house, which is otherwise architecturally undistinguished), vs others which have a rich / interesting architectural fabric – say, the old Public Trust Office. But certain buildings stand out as important fabric of the city, and Minister Brownlee presented the “layman’s” view of that when he said, a year or so ago, that there were only 5 buildings in Christchurch that he thought were Heritage Worth Keeping (the rest, notoriously, being described as Old Dungas). Yes, the Cathedral, the Canterbury Provincial Chambers and the Arts Centre did all significantly define Christchurch’s sense of place. And as you say, m-d, Wellington’s sense of place is less reliant on single works of architecture, and more on the layout of the city streets and the surrounding geography. I’d put forward the proposal that Wellington’s standout buildings are all carefully positioned at the culmination of viewshafts. The Old BNZ is at the end of the viewshaft along Willis St, while at the other end of Willis, the St George (and then St Mary’s of the Angels) stand vigil. The MLC building similarly stands at the end of Featherston St, angling it’s prow to indicate the nearby streets passing by. In a modern version of that, the MFC projects into the viewshaft down Cuba – and in the most recent application of this, the bridge support at Kumutoto is visible at the Johnstone St end of the viewshaft into the harbour. ’

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    • Cuba Cuticle
      • 21 Nov 2011
      • Eye of the Fish
      • Recently, while we were talking about the curious case of the Demolition Order placed on the little green Dry Cleaners in Cuba St, I took a visit up to Cuba (St) to take a photo and found something rather odd.
      • Accepted from Eye of the Fish feed 78 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • cuba street
      • wellywood sign
      • heritage buildings

      • This newsitem has 10 comments.

        • ‘deepred – i don’t think that the 7 storey thing is an official limit, just what people there are talking about. But plus, no one there has a job any more, so there is not much call for office space… harsh, but mostly true. Re Japan and San Fran – different ground conditions over there i suspect, as well as substantially more wealthy economies. In Haiti, after their massive quake there 2 years ago, killing 200,000 people, from what i understand virtually nothing has been rebuilt, including their government buildings. No money in the economy. ’
        • ‘The 7-storey limit seems artificial for a city of ChCh’s size, given that earthquake risks haven’t stopped Japan and San Francisco from building upwards. On the other hand, those 2 places don’t seem to have liquefaction risks like ChCh. ’
        • ‘My understanding is that the building (and its similarly-hued neighbour) are owned by a prominent Upper Te Aro identity who is often in conflict with the forces of authority – last I heard he was growing a beard to protest against liquor licensing issues. The dry cleaners, who were grumpy enough to have carried a whole Seinfeld episode, were long-term tenants who have now given the game away entirely. My question is actually a bit serious. Doesn’t it seem a bizarre outcome of a safety exercise that one small wooden building without chimneys, sconces or gargoyles should be the only one to be shut down? ’

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        • Geotagged Cuba Street, Te Aro, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6011, New Zealand

    • Whither Cuba?
      • 24 Oct 2011
      • Eye of the Fish
      • Gosh – that was a surprise! Our venerated local broadsheet, el Domino Postale, appears to have gone and written an excellent, thoughtful article on what we need to do with Cuba St. Have they got a new reporter perhaps, one who is actually interested in matters more important than cute doggies or cats stuck up trees? There is hope, at least – keep an eye out on Nikki McDonald. The article raises some serious points, which I think that we have also raised before – what to do with a street whose charm lies in it’s eclectic collection of semi derelict buildings?
      • Accepted from Eye of the Fish feed 82 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings
      • cuba street

      • This newsitem has 10 comments.

        • ‘[...] while we were talking about the curious case of the Demolition Order placed on the little green Dry Cleaners in Cuba St, I took [...] ’
        • ‘I am familiar with the meaning of “chum” you cite, but still wondering if this is just a case of bait-and-switch. ’
        • ‘I’ll take your money honey…. i reckon it is designed that way, and will still be there for years to come… ’

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        • Geotagged Cuba Street, Te Aro, Wellington, Wellington Region, 6011, New Zealand
        • dmanww RT @wellynews: Eye of the Fish - Whither Cuba? http://t.co/hQ16RvuI

    • Restoring Wellington’s defences
      • 18 Oct 2011
      • Capital Times
      • A handful of volunteers are the only ones maintaining Wellington’s defences against possible invasion. For 20 years the Wrights Hill Fortress Restoration Society has spent thousands of voluntary hours and tens of thousands of dollars restoring the Karori fortress and giving the public access to one of the city’s best kept secrets.
      • Accepted from Capital Times news items 83 weeks ago by tonytw1
      • Tagged as:
      • heritage buildings
      • local history
        • Geotagged Wrights Hill, Wellington

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